It looks like the same parts are used for Hybrid, X-Trem and Pro Models Cam Systems, Can I use any part for any model? Are these parts interchangeable?
I have a Fender System 1, do you have replacement parts for these models?
I broke the part that the string goes into on my cam
tremolo, what part do I need, and how do I replace it?
Will A Kahler Cam Operated Tremolo System fit on my
guitar?
Will A Kahler Cam System retro-fit a Fulcrum System?
Can a 2300 Series
retrofit a 2330 Flyer?
My
Tremolo won't return to center or stay in tune. Why?
Will
your 2300 Series Cam systems fit over my FR route?
What's the difference between a Cam System and a Fulcrum System?
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I
broke the part that the string attaches on my cam operated tremolo, what
part do I need, and how do i replace it?
You want Part Number 9407 "String Hook".
To install:
Turn the tremolo over and just loosen the 2 screws that are attached to the load lever. The load lever is the part that has the springs attached to it underneath, Once loosened, completely remove the 2 screws attached to the frame. Now the cam swivels freely. Remove the 6 fine tuners, revealing the 3 phillips screws. Remove the 3 screws. Now lift out the cam cage (the part with the 6 string hooks) and l ube it liberally with WD-40 or similar.
You need to drive out the pin that runs though the hooks. The pin is visible from the sides of the cam cage. Look on either side of the cam cage and look for the smaller, chipped side of the pin. It's usually inset abit into the cage body. The other side seems flush. YOU PUSH IT OUT FROM THE INSET SIDE. insert the new hook and retap it back in flush. its fairly simple. You will need a long thin object to push with. Try using a jewelers type allen driver available at radio shack.
This part is for ALL the Kahler Cam Operated
Tremolo Systems
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Will A Kahler Cam Operated Tremolo System fit on my guitar
or bass?
YES! The Kahler Cam Operated Systems are made to work on any guitar but
any retrofit requires some woodworking no matter what! The decision to
make is whether you need a flat mount or stud mount system. Any way you go
the guitar body must be routed with a 1" inch deep "T" shaped route.
Also see: guitar
trems
If you are unsure about what system you need or how it is installed,
PLEASE contact a Luthier and ask him for his recommendations. We do not
offer any information on how install a Kahler system. We are not Luthiers. Don't do it yourself, ask a
professional, we strongly recommend it! Kahler international is not
responsible for any installation errors arising from a do-it yourself job.
Also see: bass trems
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Will A Kahler Cam System retro-fit a Fulcrum System?
Yes it will, if its a Kahler Conversion Cam
System! The "fat" plate as it is affectionately called, is simply a
decorative plate that will completely cover most Floyd routes
including our own routes from the discontinued Kahler fulcrum systems like
the 2500/20 Fulcrum, the 2710 Killer, the 2720 Spyder and the 2760
Steeler. This plate will be thin as a pick guard and have a hole to attach
the cam system to. Then the whole assembly is attached to the guitar. To
do this right a qualified Luthier should be used. But the whole operation
is actually very simple to do. The only thing a Luthier will do that you
should not do, is route the body and place it properly for exact
intonation and string spacing.
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Can a 2300 Series retrofit a 2330 Flyer?
Unfortunately they won't fit on a
Flyer hole mounting pattern. They do however use the same route.
Did you know that you can turn your Flyer into a Pro by simply upgrading
the saddle sets to the 2300 Series Saddles? All cams and saddles in our
2200 and 2300 series are interchangeable, including the 2230 Stud Mount
and 2330 Flat mount Flyers. Feel free to upgrade your Flyers......go pro!
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My Tremolo won't return to center or stay in tune. Why?
There could be 14 reasons why this happens. They are:
1) The Bearing Bolts PN# 8390 or Bearings PN# 8313 are dirty and gummed up
from years of oils and grime. remove and clean or replace if necessary.
2) It's possible that there is a notch worn in the Load Tension Leveler PN#
9404 pin hole. (it's hard to detect), and /or the Load Tension Leveler Pin
PN# 8314 is bent or a foreign object is in there somewhere. Clean and
replace these if they look bad.
3) The Normal Tension Return Springs PN# 8412 are fatigued and worn out.
Replace them. If you desire you can upgrade to a Heavy Tension Springs PN#
8413 for a firmer feel similar to a Floyd Rose. Also you want to check to
make sure the Spring Mounting Screws PN# 8392 are snug and tight. If they
slip it won't return to center.
4) If your tremolo does not return to center ONLY after an Up Pull on the
arm, then you might want to inspect the String lock to make sure one or
more strings are slipping through the Clamp Plate PN# 9535. The strings
eventually create a worn out channel dug out of the Clamp plate. If this
happens it will change the tension over the entire cam and it wont center
out correctly. Inspect them and replace if necessary.
5) If you have a bolt on neck. If it shifts when your playing, then you
cannot keep it in tune. Test it by trying to knock it from the side to see
if it shifts. Is the neck shimmed? If it is, the saddle rollers may be
excessively high which can cause tuning problems, try lowering the saddle
height adjusters.
6) Are the nut slots wide enough that the strings seat properly and do not
bind? If any one string hangs up in the nut, it may not tune properly.
Place a drop of 3 in 1 oil on the string in question where it crosses the
nut. Improved tuning means the nut was at fault. If necessary, widen the
string slot without deepening it using a nut file, or continue to
periodically oil the problem area.
7) Is the string lock screwed tightly to the headstock? If it is not, it
may shift occasionally causing general tuning problems. Try testing it by
placing your thumb and index finger on the sides of the string lock
extending down onto the neck or headstock. Push the vibrato bar down as
far as possible then pull it up as far as possible. If the string lock is
moving or shifting positions, you may be able to feel slight vibration or
movement. Sometimes you can even hear a faint "click" or "chink". double
check and tighten all 4 string lock mounting screws PN# 8363, firmly.
Is the string lock positioned at a suitable height in relation to the nut?
If the string bends more than approximately 12 degrees as the string
passes over the nut and into the string lock there may be a potential
slack to accumulate between the nut and the string lock. Visually inspect
and estimate the angle of the string bend with reference to a protractor.
if necessary, raise the string lock with a flat shim PN# 8450 or a rounded
shim PN# 8460 so that the angle of bend is reduced to less than
approximately 12 degrees. Test it by depressing the arm and releasing it.
Then tune the guitar. Make sure the string lock is locking to the best of
your ability. With the vibrato arm depressed fully, push on the strings
between the string lock and the tuning machine heads. Release the arm and
check tuning. If any strings have gone radically sharp they aren't being
clamped tightly enough.
9) Is the string lock gripping all the strings? If not, one or several
strings may go sharp after the arm has been depressed, or flat after a
string has been bent or the arm has been raised. Solution: For standard
string locks: turn wrench harder. If this has no positive effect, remove
the clamp plates from the string lock and file 0.020" off each end of each
clamp plate. The reason the plates might need filing is that they must be
able to tilt in order to make firm contact with two strings of different
sizes. Shorter plates can tilt and still be long enough for even the
widest string spacing. If the shorter plates still cannot tilt the clamp,
screw holes must be enlarged with a round file or drill bit.
For deluxe string locks to function properly it must be lubricated. Remove
the clamp screws, washers, and square wedges. Smear wax or grease (lip
balm) on bottom of wedges and both sides of the washers and then
reassemble. Smear lubrication on the lobes at base of the levers. Tighten
the screws finger tight and back off 1/4 turn. Snap shut the levers. If
they do not close with very firm snaps, open the levers and tighten the
screws slightly. Repeat until the levers snap shut with good firm snaps.
Do not use tools to force the levers closed.
10) Are the rollers rolling? If the rollers or a roller does not roll
easily, the tuning of the unit can be greatly impaired because the roller
will create drag on the string and cause either a slack build-up behind
the roller, (resulting in tuning error for that string) or cause the
entire unit not to balance accurately (resulting in general out of tune
result). To test this, remove a string to the side of the roller and
rotate the roller with your finger. Replace the string onto the roller and
move the tremolo arm up and down. Does the roller appear to roll?
Solution: If a roller is stuck try to work it free with your finger. Then
apply a drop of 3 in 1 oil or sewing machine oil to each side of the
roller between the roller and the inside edge of the saddle fork.
Sometimes if a roller has a flat spot which has been cut into it by the
string it will turn freely under finger pressure but will not turn when
the string is in place and the vibrato arm is moved. If a roller will not
roll beneath a string it must be worked lose until it rolls, or replaced.
11) Are the rollers too high? If the rollers are very high, they may be
causing friction which is keeping the cam from balancing properly. When a
roller is very high there is more pressure from the string exerted on the
roller and therefore more friction between the roller and its axle pin.
This friction is often the cause of general tuning problems and is very
often the cause of the specific tuning problem which is that the strings
tend to stay flat when the arm is pushed down and released and the strings
tend to sharp when the arm is pulled up and released. High rollers are
also often the cause of string breakage because of the increased angle of
bend in the string and greater contact pressure. This breakage will occur
at the roller. Visually look at the rollers from the side of the guitar.
Do they appear to be set high? The optimum roller height for tuning
stability is .350" to .400" (approximately 3/8ths of an inch). measuring
from the top of the mounting ring to the string. This is how you can
remedy the situation..........
Stud mount tremolos: If the string height above the neck is satisfactory
make a mental note of its height. Then lower the saddles until the strings
are about 3/8ths of an inch above the tremolo mounting ring. Next, raise
the entire tremolo by turning the studs and front riser wheels until the
string height above the neck is once again satisfactory. The tremolo base
plate mounting ring (frame) should remain parallel to the plane of the
fret board. On a guitar with a pitched back or angled back neck, raise the
rear studs more than the front riser screws to tilt the tremolo until it
is in a plane parallel to the fret board. A non-parallel condition between
the fret board plane and the tremolo is especially common on guitars with
carved or curved tops. The problem is that the bridge is tilted back to
follow the sloping curve of the body and this has the effect of high
rollers when the rollers don't appear to be high. In actuality the entire
front of the tremolo is high. Therefore, the roller height measurement may
be only 3/8ths of an inch yet this is deceiving since the top surface of
the tremolo base plate mounting ring is itself high in front from being
tilted.
Flat mount tremolos (on guitars with bolt on necks): Loosen the strings
and detach the neck. If a shim was found in the attachment area nearest
the bridge remove it and re-attach the neck. If no shim was found, add a
shim of about .030" (1/64th of an inch) to the neck mounting surface in
the area furthest from the bridge and re-attach the neck. If a shim was
found in the area furthest from the bridge increase it by 1/64th of an
inch and re-attach the neck. String and tune the guitar. The strings will
now be too high over the neck. Lower each saddle until the neck action is
good. The purpose of this is to tilt the neck so that the rollers can be
lowered.
Flat mount tremolos (on guitars with permanent necks): Remove the tremolo
from the guitar and reinstall it with a base plate mounting ring shim
between it and the guitar body. Then lower the saddles to return the neck
action to a good level.
12) Are the springs free from obstruction when the tremolo is in all
positions? If the springs ever hit anything they can make audible noises
and even cause turning problems. Solution: Deepen or widen the spring
cavity to provide clearance.
13) Are the notches in the steel inserts riding on the very top edge of
the mounting screws? If the notches ride lower on the shank or collar of
the screw the entire tremolo will not balance properly and will therefore
be frequently out of tune. Visually inspect them.
The fix would be to loosen the strings and raise the fulcrum base plate
including the steel insert up so that the notches ride the top of the
screw head. Retune the guitar.
14) Are the notches in the steel insert lubricated? If not, the balance
will not be optimum and therefore tuning will not be optimum. Visually
inspect them. If necessary, apply a drop of 3 in 1 oil to the point where
the mounting screw heads meet the notches. A smear of grease works well in
addition to the 3 in 1 oil.
Will your
2300 Series Cam systems fit over my FR route?
No. The Floyd Void is to large. We have a fat plate so you can do exactly what you want to do. It will be available very soon.
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